Brio CNC Saw Part 1

[Eric R]

I thought I'd make some posts on this saw as things progress and share some of my thoughts as things transpire.

It fit into a 20' container, but there was just over an inch of clearance on each side.
The rigger no-showed, so we had to improvise with one 6K lb lift and one 10k lb lift. Not ideal, but it got done.




Tight fit getting it in.


Unwrapping the Christmas present


We unloaded it at 5pm and this is the first job we cut the next day at 2:30pm. The run time on the saw was 22 minutes


Job #2. It had to cut a radius, so it was something like 29 minutes.




A few thoughts.
-The machine is bigger than I thought. The overall footprint. Not sure how I goofed that up, but it's fine.
-The saw bed is 79"x134". We cut a slab that was 81" the second day we ran it. That's the biggest slab we've ever had and I don't think the saw will cut anything taller.
-The fit and finish is exceptional. GMM is really top notch. The accuracy is nothing short of a dream.
-We're just getting in to the programming as far as like and dislikes. My main dislike was that it would want to cut the miter on some pieces first and then cut out the rest of the piece which is fine, but it wanted to do it to each piece instead of cutting all of the miters on the slab first and then pausing to reorient the blade and cutting out the rest of the job. I told Taf about this about 5pm and explained why it was such a problem and he assured me he understood and they could take care of it. The next day he accessed my computer by remote and installed new programming with the changes we needed I was hoping they would listen to me and be responsive, but this was beyond what I had imagined. I'm hoping I don't have more issues come up like that, but it sure is nice having someone stand behind it that cares.
-The saw is no longer a bottle neck, but other issues have come up. Like material handling and CAD drawing. We save a bunch of time on the saw now, but the increased ability has now strained these areas. That's fine.

I'll update more as things progress, but as of right now I'm a pretty happy camper

[dustinbraudway]

I knew you would be happy and get the jitters out of the way.

[clhilde]

What is the overall foot print? It doesn't appear to take much more than the saw you had.

[mikelaw]

Good looking saw Eric.

[steven nenzel]

Thanks for the post. I'm looking forward to learning more after you have some kitchens under your belt.

[Nick]

Are you orienting or locating the slab by touching corners to create a rectangle? How does that work sans camera and how big or not big of a deal is it?

[Curtis R. Marburger]

sweet , happy for you

GMM , top shelf

[Nick]

Also, while you are playing q and a( ), how long does it take to crank the head to 45? I meant to do that at gmm and got distracted by something shiny.

[steven nenzel]

Nick, I believe it is an automated tilt to 45. If you need to tilt beyond that it is manual.

[Rick George]

I believe the Brio is manual tilt and the Intra is automatic if I remember correctly. I can't imagine it taking even 3 to 5 minutes to manually do this as we have always done similar on our Yukon and its not a big deal, but then again I'm not doing many miters either.

[Nick]

Stephen, It is not, and it only tilts to 45 degrees, the intra goes to 90 on servo motor all automatic. When I started looking into saws, I researched the shite out of everything, I am obsessive about purchases, I know the brio pretty well other than actually day in and out running it which I am as curious as many others here as to what Eric figures out. I think at the end of the day, dollar for dollar it will be a hard saw to beat for most applications. Taf certainly is an X factor on GMM saws...

[Nick]

Duh Rick said it as I did.


Rick, only reason I ask is cuz I have heard it is a pain on the eura, but totally different design too...

[dustinbraudway]

I believe that you have to loosen two bolts prior to cranking and turning to 45. At least on the Denver its that way. You can do it quickly.

[Todd B]

I believe that you have to loosen two bolts prior to cranking and turning to 45. At least on the Denver its that way. You can do it quickly.

Spot on

It's the stopping and starting that would take longer.

Congrats.

P.S.

I would have filled my pants to my socks unloading it like that.

[Eric R]

Dustin, they weren't jitters...they were spasms
Chris, I'll check.
Nick, we were planning using the front left cornere of the table as 0,0 but you can set the slab perimeters pretty quick with the laser and the guys like that because it's easy to get right to the furthest usable edge of the slab.
The crank on the miter is easy. Very easy to get to as well. I have not timed it but I'll pay attention next time. It's much easier to change than the Park saw I had though.

To get it out of the container we had to get it in the air then have the truck driver drive away while the 6k lift was teetering and guys hanging on the back. Like I said, not jitters...spasms

[Nick]

Laser, smart.

So that takes minimal time.


Don't bother timing the miter, it is not like other saws, that is good. Sounds really awesome.

[deepwater]

Is you don't mind my asking. What was the cost breakdown?

[Eric R]

Do you mean machine price, or other expenses.

You can get the machine price from Taf. I'll just say it's under $99k.

It'll take a little bit to get used to how things work, but it is going great so far.

[deepwater]

Do you mean machine price, or other expenses.

You can get the machine price from Taf. I'll just say it's under $99k.

It'll take a little bit to get used to how things work, but it is going great so far.

..all in setup and delivered

[GuyboR]

Do you mean machine price, or other expenses.

You can get the machine price from Taf. I'll just say it's under $99k.

It'll take a little bit to get used to how things work, but it is going great so far.

..all in setup and delivered

I just confirmed with Taf that the "under 99k" is a good number delivered and setup. But...get a hold of him to get an actual quote.

ps....I've moved this thread to the GMM forum so Taf can watch it and comment on it also.

[clhilde]

So whats the foot print

[GuyboR]

So whats the foot print

Here is the pdf off their website. You will have to "Americanize" the measurements. 1"=25.4mm
http://www.gmm.it/1012file/brochure/dep ... %20cnc.pdf

[GuyboR]

So whats the foot print

I did the conversion for you Chris.

6150mm wide - 242" (20+')
4380mm deep - 172" (14.3')

[Tafwharton]

Gday Fellas,
Foot print will be (for the Brio CNC monoblock unit) 20ft by almost 10 ft. the electrical panel is mounted to the right side of the machine and is not transferable - so when considering foot print, please consider that I need to get myself between between your factory wall and the elec panel to make connections / carry out work on the machine. and im not as slim as I once was.
I think Eric has answered a lot of the questions very clearly (Thanks Eric), but I will just confirm a few
Head inclination is MANUAL on Brio CNC
The operators tell the machine where the slab is located by simply moving the blade to the top, bottom, left and right sides of the slab - some may consider this time consuming, but in reality it is very simply, fast, and yealds the maximum sawing area possible.
Cheers