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Material identity

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:15 am
by Template whizz
I am almost done fabricating a tricky kitchen material. However the identity of the material is still a question. Im pretty confident I have worked with this exact material in the past because you always remember the demanding ones. I will tell you what this was sold to my customer as after you weigh in with your opinions on what exactly it is.There are no prizes sorry but hopefully you can help me convince my supplier that they have this tagged incorrectly.
Thanks all

Re: Material identity

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:28 am
by mikedean
Black Cosmic
Titanium
Sedna
Magma
Magma Gold

Re: Material identity

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:07 am
by ageless
One of the Shist materials that are a pain in the rear to fabricate.

Re: Material identity

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:48 pm
by Darryl Miller
Shist

Re: Material identity

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:37 pm
by tim farr
Looks like comet to me.

Re: Material identity

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:29 pm
by cliveyt
Black cosmic/cosmos or saturnia :shock: I despise this stuff!

Re: Material identity

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:21 am
by Dan R.
Looks more like a Magma/Sedna than a Saturnia. Saturnia and Orion would have more mica, IMO.

Re: Material identity

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:50 am
by Chris@VTS
This looks like Bellatrix
It's a schist for sure. We stock this, it's a little different than
Kosmos, Saturnia, Earth Glitter, Cosmic Black
Magma,Desert Dream,
Titianium, Matrix, Matrix Motion
It looks like your's is leathered. All schists are difficult. Your in the deep end of the pool. Leathered is a little easier, but if your patient even the polished is doable. Buy lots of Akemi - penetrating acrylic ( MK1000)

Re: Material identity

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:36 pm
by kklodt
Reminds me of Magma, which I never, never, never want to touch again. I had our guys even throw out the remnants so they couldn't be sold for vanities..

Re: Material identity

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:01 am
by Steve A
Had the same thing happen a couple years ago on a similar material, first and last time working with the material. We ended up scrapping the kitchen and talking the client into another material.

We tried a lot of stuff to make it work, CNC polish, hand polish, epoxy the edges, penetrating epoxy on the edges, nothing cut it. No matter what we did the edges just blew apart.

What I don't understand is how there is a market for this material. That must mean fabricators out there find a way to make it work and make money too. I scratch my head at that....

Re: Material identity

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:23 pm
by Dan R.
One of our top sellers.

Re: Material identity

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:56 pm
by luke getz
we have done a fair amount of those type of stones - brushed is the best finish.

it took me about 10 jobs in this stone to get a pretty good handle on how to work with it, and i still dont like it, but as long as you set expectations for the customer, and price accordingly, it works out fine. ( it will never be smooth as glass, and chips will show up later, it is just how this stone is - but it is still a beautiful stone! )

Re: Material identity

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:42 pm
by SbergeronMG
cnc does the best of jobs with those material
barely anything to repair (got to have close profile)
our first mistake was actually passing the z profile to scribe
wall, after that job we were passing the first three diamond t30 r3 for walls
we went trough all those color (kosmuz, asterix (they asked for rock pitch edge lol), sedna, garuda, black cosmic, etc)

I actually got kosmuz in my home
the only thing is that it's really soft and easy to scratch
every shist is, but the color is beautyful.