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I drew a crude, very crude, picture of a slide in stove and a top from the side view. The slide in wraps around the edge work and looks good if the customer has a flat polished edge. If they get something like Ogee you can see inside the slide in and it looks not so good. So we stop polish on the top about 1" or so from the end of the piece to accommodate this. The problem is that when we have these situations we have to automatically do the edgework on the CNC as opposed to the line polisher. I know, I know, the sketch shows Ogee and our Lara can not make Ogee but it was just an example.

Is anyone else running into this and have a better idea than what we have been doing?

Joe,

Just asking , shouldnt that stove notch back a inch or 2 ?

I don't think so. The way it was described to me is that the slide in is supposed to cover the top on both ends. We just started running into a couple of these. I asked for a real picture. If I get one, I will post it.

We have done that one a bunch, at first I was thinking the same, the detail needs to turn into a eased edge as it meets the stove. But we tried one and it looked like crap. So we just run the detail on into the side, you only see in at a side glance and unless your looking for it, you dont even notice.

Joe Little wrote:We have done that one a bunch, at first I was thinking the same, the detail needs to turn into a eased edge as it meets the stove. But we tried one and it looked like crap. So we just run the detail on into the side, you only see in at a side glance and unless your looking for it, you dont even notice.

The same for us

Same here.... got one in my kitchen.

We run into these all the time. We stop like you said, about an 1" back. All I have is CNC, so not sure what to tell you to do on your Lara?

same here we usually stop 1" with a stove strip in the back. Also some customers request us to notch the stone like Troy said.

I am with joe, looks shitty....I just tell customer that if they want it to look perfect, the need to get a flat edge, othewise, just butt in up against the front. I tell them there is no way the stove manufacturer can make it so it will fit any edge.

Notch it or leave it unless they will pay more to run the ogee out to a flat for the returns.

discuss the options with the homeowner. Stop profiles should be an upcharge.

dantoy wrote:discuss the options with the homeowner. Stop profiles should be an upcharge.

I agree. I am getting more requests for them especially on two-tier bars that have backsplash. They want the bs to line up as much as possible with the upper bar.

There is a Jenn Air model that we have done about 3 times where everything looks lke shite from eased to ogee. We don't stop edge for slide ins becuase even though there is a little gap in the ogee no one says anything and it looks fine, my parents have that with an ogee + flat bumpout and it looks fine even with the bumpout. If you notch it, then the stove goes too far back so the strip in the back looks weak and that is the greater of 2 evils IMO, especially with a full splash.

We run the edge straight into the stove no matter what profile

matt rickard wrote:We run the edge straight into the stove no matter what profile

We do to.

We either notch the stone for the slide-in or leave it as you have it in the diagram. It's the customer's option. Quite often the customer initially doesn't want it notched then changes their mind and we go back.

Todd Luster wrote:

matt rickard wrote:We run the edge straight into the stove no matter what profile

We do to.

Us too.

Same here.

I have always stopped the profile about an inch short - my customers appreciate the details like that. No CNC or line polisher here though. I guess there is an advantage to hand building tops after all - the customer gets what they want and gets better looking tops.

topshop wrote:I have always stopped the profile about an inch short - my customers appreciate the details like that. No CNC or line polisher here though. I guess there is an advantage to hand building tops after all - the customer gets what they want and gets better looking tops.

That would be really easy to do on a CNC and I have only had one for about 2.5 months.

topshop wrote:I have always stopped the profile about an inch short - my customers appreciate the details like that. No CNC or line polisher here though. I guess there is an advantage to hand building tops after all - the customer gets what they want and gets better looking tops.

So that is what customers want. I am pretty sure that these things are just shop preferance and that is just a detail that doesn't bother me or my customers at all and hence our shop preference. Out of curiosity does this better top have the profile radius into the flat edge due to the diameter of the bit, and thus change the top line of the edge just before the stove giving an illusion of a small bumpout when in reality the cabinet line is straight? Or is it a hard stop that is perfectly excecuted at the plastic stove cover on the stove where the edge profile is dremel tooled and dremel polished and in all likelyhood a little bumpy and needing some kind of enhancer to make look as though it was diamond polished like the rest of the edge? I am not so sure I really fancy either of those looks. Though I am pretty sure that you can have an edge machine and/or CNC and still be able to give the customer what they want......and I would even venture to say that you can provide a better looking top with these machines than without