CAD will Not fillet ?

[Curtis R. Marburger]

every once in awhile i run into this with Rhino during editing that it will not fillet and end and dont know why. I did try to expolde and un group but i did notice that command not working right on this drawing . all the lines are unlocked and I can fillet other areas of top just not here and dont know why ?

Thanks for you time and input

[tim farr]

Try to extend lines (lengthen) and then divide at intersections. That's how it works in icam.

[GuyboR]

Are their Z values on the same plane? I don't think fillet will work if they are different.

[Curtis R. Marburger]

I tried the extend line , I do suspect for some reason the end of drawing is somehow on different plane. The rest of the counter i can fillet . I tried regrouping and resetting countertop to be on same layer. The Z line plane is a little over my head . I do bring in Z lines from proliner and machine origin but turn them off ?

[graniteman]

It looks like an upper bar. Was the proliner at the same height as the counter? I think it will put it on a different plane if you go above or below zero Z. Not sure if those are technical terms but I think you know what I mean.

[Curtis R. Marburger]

this cad work done so long ago i don't remember if I had proliner up high enough but seems that is the case here for some reason proliner was not high enough. The drawing is not upside down that i confirmed.

What bugs me the most is i did have it finished before and filleted the builder made a change and i took 2 inches off and it wont let me fillet now ?

[Curtis R. Marburger]

I just get tired of trying to figure out why and just reopen the DXF again and start over

[DavidL]

You should be able to pull up the "properties" of your individual geometries (one at a time) I net you will see a difference in Z that you can edit to make it equal. You may even be able to highlight all pieces and get Properties to display (autocad does this, so does draftsight) then change Z = 0 and it will reset them all to the same plane.

[Curtis R. Marburger]

what I finally did after fooling around with it some more is redraw just the lines that would not fillet over-top originals and then deleted the original lines and the the fillet worked . So like you all were saying must been on different planes for some reason

[Drew Proliner]

send me the Rhino file and the PRL file from the Proliner and I will see what happened and fix it.

[Curtis R. Marburger]

Thanks for the offer Drew , i was close to that job on another template today and just stopped in and re pro-lined the upper bar .

will send you the original PRL file if i still have it .
what bugs me the most is all the CAD work was complete and ready to cut vynal.
I just needed to offset that line that would not fillet per client change and simply could not get it to fillet. I did redraw the lines and got it to work but it wigged me out enough to just go back.

[Erick]

I have encountered the same issue on a couple of drawings lately. I checked each line's properties as suggested and indeed the parts where fillet is not working the 2 lines are at different planes. Some lines are Z=0 the others are not. The workaround of redrawing the lines it's good, but it's extra work. Do anyone knows why is it doing this? How do I prevent this from happening?

My boss thinks that the cause might be when I extend the Proliner's cord too far and then when I move around retracting and pulling the cord he thinks it might get stuck at some point and start drawing in a diferent plane.

Note: I sent this Proliner for repair back in April 2014. The small cord attached to the pen was broken and replaced at Prodim. Before sent it for repair I never had this problem.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Erick

[John Richerts]

Erik,

Don't know what company your from but it sounds like you may have your export settings wrong. Make sure you turn off export z lines and raw data as this would be 3D. You boss would be incorrect about the other. Make sure you have your measure settings set to first countour all points. You can always call here for help.

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Curtis if this ever happens in Rhino just select everything and type in ProjecttoCplane

[Curtis R. Marburger]

This has not happened to me again.
I make sure pro-liner arm is set higher than what i am templateing pretty sure that is what was happening

[Erick]

Hello John, I am with Miller Druck Specialty Contracting, Inc. Export Settings look all good. Z-coordinates and Raw Lines are turned off and Contours is turned on.

What Curtis mentions has me thinking. Now that I recall the times that I've encoutered that issue was when doing a floor and I sat the proliner at the same level (floor). Whereas when I did Kitchens I set it a bit higher.

Thank you all,

Erick

[Erick]

I think I found the problem. As you guys had suspected, it was the settings. Projection was set to "First contour every layer". Just changed it to what John indicated "First contour all points", tested it and no issues.

Again thank you all.

Erick

[John Richerts]

It is better to have the object being measured lower than the arm, what can happen is it could potentially mirror the drawing. For full height backsplash do one low ,one high, one low. If your drawing did mirror it could also throw off your compensation big time. Should have nothing to do with havng 3D info though in the drawing.