Please Critique My Templating Time

[the_dionysian_1]

Yes that instance still seems like overkill. NO WAY I would've relocated the laser for that, set up in between the island and the sink and set targets on the counter/wall cap and just shoot those points. Aren't the homeowners taking an assumed risk by not having the wall prepared/cut down to one level before you get there? By risk I mean in the contract it says "overhangs might vary by 1/8" if old tops aren't removed first" or something along those lines.
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Oh, I wish my place of employ were so organized so as to have something as detailed as a contract. All they've got is a basic invoice that says "a 60% deposit is required, the balance is due at completion or a 5% service charge will be added. There will be an additional charge for floor prep & furniture moving. We do not remove or reset toilets. Due to the nature of natural stone, marble & granite, samples that we provide are representative only and cannot be binding. Variations in color & markings may occur. In some cases, reinforcement &/or filling may be required."

That's it.

[Justzack]

yes something you are doing is being way more critical than it needs to be.
I would have set up between the island and counter too. the island actually looks wide enough to set up on top of it without a tripod(if you can with your setup.
I would take lt up on the offer and have their rep shoot a kitchen with you.

[STEVE NY]

yes something you are doing is being way more critical than it needs to be.
I would have set up between the island and counter too. the island actually looks wide enough to set up on top of it without a tripod(if you can with your setup.
I would take lt up on the offer and have their rep shoot a kitchen with you.
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X 2 This kitchen would have taken me about 15-20 minutes to shoot, at the most.

[GuyboR]

I don't know why anyone would just scan & not check the dimensions.

The only time I pull a tape measure out is to discuss overhangs with the customer. We paid a lot of money for our template machine and we trust it more than we trust me writing down 34"...or was it 43"...or 3'4".

By the way, we use a Proliner.

[Alex DiPietro]

Sorry guy, it's foolish not to quickly verify a few key dimensions but to "template" the whole job with a tape is insane. We do jobs as complicated as residential countertops get. I measured a $20k kitchen and splash and waterfall today in an hour today. And i rarely template... I also did a regular kitchen and vanity and it took about 40mins or so. The drawings still get cleaned up in CAD but the bones are done and verified.

[Clyde Kingry]

Proliner...

Check at least one X and one Y dimension just to make sure things are as should be. I usually do no more than once per job site. If they're correct, then all the others will be unless there was operator error and most times that can be caught at clean up off site.

[Alex DiPietro]

Yes proliner is key

[the_dionysian_1]

I don't know why anyone would just scan & not check the dimensions.

The only time I pull a tape measure out is to discuss overhangs with the customer. We paid a lot of money for our template machine and we trust it more than we trust me writing down 34"...or was it 43"...or 3'4".

By the way, we use a Proliner.
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Is the Proliner more accurate than the LT2D/3D or have you had the chance to try it out?

[GuyboR]

I've never used a 2d3d laser, so I can't say. Per the actual spec sheet, they are probably both the same.

[BrianStoiber]

The LT-2D3D is +/- 1/16" (1.5mm), the Proliner is =/- 1mm

I cannot speak for the Proliner as I have not used one myself but although both systems are =/-, that is the maximum variance between the same point being taken multiple times. As a test, I would suggest pointing the laser at a wall or cabinet base and taking 20 measurements. Once done, zoom in on the point cluster and check the distance between the two that are the farthest out.

You should see less than 1/16" (.0625). We simply have to use the =/- because that is the actual tolerance of the laser module itself.

[Dan R.]

[Ken Lago]

Problem solved, it ain't the device it's the operator....

[the_dionysian_1]

Problem solved, it ain't the device it's the operator....
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I think there's an echo in here

[the_dionysian_1]

Alright, well per talking to people here. I've stopped doing hand drawings entirely. I'm only checking dimensions on the tablet while on site & only fixing crucial ones (like, say the diagonal dimension of an "L" shape that has tall panels on both ends of the returns). I had an extremely large house to measure today (12 separate scan pages in the LT program). After I left, & was waiting for the boat to take me back to mainland, I ran the numbers real quick & I averaged about 19 min per scan. In reality, it was probably more like 30 min for the kitchen, then like 7-10 min for each other room. Plus the time to have the contractor show me around to where each room to be scanned was located, discuss sinks, inspect cooktop & pop-up downdraft combo cutout & countertop design around bump-out's etc. To be clear, my average did NOT discount the time taken for what I said in the last sentence. So I think overall that's quite an improvement. What would you all say?

[luke getz]

sounds pretty good to me