cnc tooling comparison

[gwise2213]

Good afternoon.

We currently use all cnc tools from ADI. They are the High speed and the cnc time is so valuable that we only run 4 metals and polish all by hand. 3 northwood Routers.

We have a new gentleman that wants to try another supplier of CNC tools. I believe they are tyrolit from GMR.

Does anyone have a good comparison between ADI and tyrolit tools along with customer service etc... ??


thanks,

Garett
AIA Countertops
Syracuse, IN

[graffster]

We are in the same boat only using ADI tools, I'll be watching this post

[thegreatace]

We run 4 northwood routers and use tools from ADI, Troylit, and Braxton-Bragg. All three have given me good customer service as far as resolving any issues that i have. I also find the tolerances labled on all three types to be pretty spot on. We actively try new tooling but ADI has always been our go to.

[Darryl Miller]

We are running the EHS tools from Marmoelettromeccanica and are really pleased with the amount of time we are saving on the cnc. They run a lot faster, better priced than a lot of other tools and so far we are getting good life out of them. These made a huge impact on reducing our run time. You can find more posts discussing this with a little search.

[gwise2213]

So what kind of feeds and speeds are you guys running
with most of the ADI profiles I am running
pos 1 @ 75 in/min
pos 2 & 3 @ 150 in/min
pos 4 @ 50 in/min


what about the other tools are they comparable. We had one set of marmoelectranica an didn't care for them in the past but maybe they have gotten quite a bit better.

[Rock Solid]

We use ADI, Tyrolit, Marmo EHS, and Diamut. I think the Tyrolit is as good if not better than ADI and several hundreds and up to A grand cheaper. Love the Marmo EHS as Darryl mentioned price is good and the time savings is amazing. Let me know if you need my Tyrolit supplier.

[flav]

Hey Guys,

What sort of tool life are you seeing on the EHS tools? For example, for our ADI T30 set, we are seeing 4000 LnFt typical before redress. Or is the idea of the EHS not about tool life and $/LnFt and more about reducing cycle time to minimum without regard to tooling cost (LnFt/min)?

I know there is no "right answer" and all about trade offs. I'm just curious how others optimize.

[Mark Smith]

Flav, we tested the marmo copper ehs over a year ago and one of the trade offs we discovered was that they are not re-truable. Not enough diamond depth. Once they are gone, they are gone. Hence the lower price.

[kristech]

I do realize this is a very old post but still relevant. I have been selling and installing Marmoelettromeccanica EHS tooling on all the Denver Quotas and Unika 5 machines that I have sold and converted many diehards that believe the other brands are best. Bottom line once my customers try a set (usually a set of T30’s) they start switching all their tooling over to the EHS Marmo tools.
Now with their Z calibrated system, setup is way faster than any other tooling. Once you place all the tools on the same length cones (same flange heights) measure the height of position 3 (third copper wheel) usually I just take a rough measure with Vernier calipers and set that measure for the height of the whole set. The diameters are written on the tools. When you run a test piece you just change the height up or down on the whole set keeping them all the same. After time the rubber tools need replacing or perhaps position 3 you simply replace the tool and only enter the new diameter. The Z height always stays the same as the old tool. I do recommend checking the diameters with digital calipers of the wheels whenever replacing one or more tools (like if replacing the rubber wheels) as they do wear and keeping these tools setup with the correct incremental settings is important as with any tooling for the best results. It often happens that people don’t maintain the proper proportion of product removal then they will blame the tooling for their neglect. I hope this might be enlightening to some and note that I am only stating what my findings have been and I am not just selling the machines and tooling but also installing and training my customers with the machines and tool setup.

[Ken Lago]

Kris are you out of va beach or close? then call me.